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RE: What vexes VoIP users?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Wed Mar 2 11:59:18 2011

From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com>
To: "'Scott Helms'" <khelms@ispalliance.net>
In-Reply-To: <4D6E74F7.7030800@ispalliance.net>
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:52:28 -0600
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Reply-To: frnkblk@iname.com
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Wow, I was not aware of that, what a management and maintenance =
nightmare.  Do they still do this?

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Helms [mailto:khelms@ispalliance.net]=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:49 AM
To: frnkblk@iname.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: What vexes VoIP users?

Frank,

     It gets better (which is sad) in the case of Charter if a customer=20
ordered voice and data they were given a normal Moto SB for Internet=20
data and a separate Arris eMTA (with no CPEs allowed other than the TA=20
and the Ethernet port disabled) for voice.  The channels they were using =

for voice even terminated on a different CMTS altogether.

On 3/2/2011 11:26 AM, Frank Bulk wrote:
> Thanks for clarifying.  I can't imagine an MSO using separate DS and =
US QAMs for their eMTAs.  Regardless, the customer's Internet would flow =
over those same QAMs (unless it was a D3 channel-bonding eMTA, and even =
then I'm not sure if the CMTS could be provisioned to use one QAM for =
voice and the remaining QAMs for data).
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Helms [mailto:khelms@ispalliance.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:27 AM
> To: frnkblk@iname.com
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: What vexes VoIP users?
>
> Frank,
>
>       No, not all.  There seems to be some confusion here between the
> concept of PacketCable flows which everyone _should_ (but aren't) be
> using to prioritize their voice traffic and separate downstream and
> upstream channels which a few operators use for voice traffic only.
>
> On 3/2/2011 12:55 AM, Frank Bulk wrote:
>> Scott:
>>
>> Are you saying that the large MSOs don't use CM configuration files =
that create separate downstream and upstream service flows for Internet, =
voice signaling, and voice bearer traffic?
>>
>> Frank


--=20
Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ISP Alliance, Inc. DBA ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
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