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Re: Mac OS X 10.7, still no DHCPv6

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Abley)
Mon Feb 28 15:35:41 2011

From: Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca>
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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:34:46 -0500
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
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On 2011-02-28, at 15:27, Randy Bush wrote:

>  o if ipv6 can not operate as the only protocol, and we will be out
>    of ipv4 space and have to deploy 6-only networks, it damned well
>    better be able to stand on its own.

Do you think I was suggesting that IPv6 as a protocol doesn't need to be =
able to stand on its own two feet? Because I wasn't; that's patently =
absurd.

However, a fixation on v6-only operation makes no sense for =
general-purpose deployment when most content and peers are only =
reachable via IPv4.

I appreciate that there are walled gardens, captive mobile applications, =
telemetry networks and other niche applications for which v6-only =
networks make sense today. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about =
the network that supports what the average user thinks of as the =
Internet.

The immediate task at hand is a transition from IPv4-only to dual stack, =
regardless of how many NATs or other transition mechanisms the IPv4 half =
of the dual stack is provisioned through.


Joe



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