[136867] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Benson Schliesser)
Sat Feb 5 23:35:30 2011
From: Benson Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net>
In-Reply-To: <3867203A-05E5-478B-B467-ABA371027743@pch.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 22:31:39 -0600
To: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net>
Cc: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 5, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2011, at 10:27 AM, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
>> If I justified an allocation 20 years ago, under the then current =
policy, it's presumptuous to presume the power of expropriation.
>=20
> No one presumes it, and a lot of us are in the same boat as you, some =
of the addresses we're using predating the RIR system.
>=20
> That said, there will always be people who will turn up on the mailing =
list, participating in the public policy process, who are not in that =
boat, and whose interests differ significantly, and who will speak in =
favor of those interests.
>=20
> And the consensus of the public, the people who participate in the =
public policy process, is what decides=20
The ARIN community decides ARIN policy. That policy doesn't inherently =
reflect "community standards" in the broader sense, or inherently align =
with the law for that matter. If the ARIN community were to instruct =
ARIN to operate in an illegal capacity, for instance, the fact that a =
"community" reached "consensus" on the matter would be a ridiculous =
defense.
Cheers,
-Benson