[136890] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Sun Feb 6 01:48:24 2011
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:47:06 +0000
In-Reply-To: <849FDB3F-EE29-48D6-8ECD-70AE6EB0B157@virtualized.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 6, 2011, at 1:25 AM, David Conrad wrote:
> Last I checked, the other four authors of RFC 2050 are still alive. Why =
not ask them?=20
Bill indicated he "was there when it was written" in reference to Jon being=
an=20
author, and I was inquiring to whether he had any knowledge of Jon's intent=
that=20
he could share. If you have knowledge of Jon's intent, or any insight on w=
hy RFC=20
2050 includes the existing allocations if the intent was actually to leave =
it vague
with respect to same, that also would be helpful.
>> Further, RFC 2050 states "The transfer of IP addresses from one party to=
another=20
>> must be approved by the regional registries. The party trying to obtain=
the IP=20
>> address must meet the same criteria as if they were requesting an IP add=
ress=20
>> directly from the IR." =20
>=20
> I'm curious: when HP acquired the assets of Compaq (or when Compaq acquir=
ed the assets of Digital), is it your position that HP (or Compaq) "met th=
e same criteria as if they were requesting an IP address directly from the =
IR." for 16.0.0.0/8?
The handling of general case varies based on the community developed=20
policy over the years, currently as specified by NRPM 8.2 (M&A Transfer)
in https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html. There's a Change Log on the
page if you want to track the policy at any given point in time. I can
not comment on any specific transfer request, but will note that at one
time the M&A transfer policy allowed transfer of all held number resources
without justification of need as long as the entire entity was involved,=20
but at this point the policy indicates that: "In the event that number=20
resources of the combined organizations are no longer justified under ARIN
policy at the time ARIN becomes aware of the transaction, through a transfe=
r=20
request or otherwise, ARIN will work with the resource holder(s) to return,=
=20
aggregate, or reclaim resources as appropriate via the processes outlined=20
in current ARIN policy (for example, sections 4.6, 4.7, or 12 of the NRPM).=
"
FYI,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
