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RE: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Aaron Wendel)
Sat Feb 5 18:13:06 2011

From: "Aaron Wendel" <aaron@wholesaleinternet.net>
To: "'John Levine'" <johnl@iecc.com>,
	<nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <20110205230613.9747.qmail@joyce.lan>
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 17:12:40 -0600
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

How can someone steal something from you that you don=E2=80=99t own?

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From: John Levine [mailto:johnl@iecc.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:06 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: "Leasing" of space via non-connectivity providers

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>> Your right to use a particular set of addresses on a particular
>> network is not granted by any RIR.

As far as I know, there's no case law about address space assignments.

There's been a bunch of cases where someone stole address space by
pretending to be the original assignee, like the SF Bay Packet Radio
case in 2008, but as far as I know, the ones that have been resolved
were resolved without a court's help.  There's also plenty of stolen
address space still in use by the party that stole it.

If there have been cases with a willing seller and a willing buyer
where ARIN has refused to update WHOIS or rDNS, I'd be interested to
hear about them.

R's,
John

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