[136780] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Feb 4 20:44:53 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <E93D3E37-ED44-46B1-A09C-192F6034A391@humancapitaldev.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:42:52 -0800
To: Daniel Seagraves <dseagrav@humancapitaldev.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 4, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Daniel Seagraves wrote:
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> On Feb 4, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
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>> I'm a little confused. Sounds like the things you are talking about =
all fall into the "if you are using your block" category, so he =
shouldn't worry.
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>> ARIN should not reclaim a block that is in use. Unless I am =
confused? (Happens a lot, especially as I get older.)
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> How many addresses do I have to be using for it to count as in use? =
How high will that number go in the next few months/years?
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> We have a very old /24 direct allocation from the stone age, when we =
were a dialup ISP. The company still exists, we just aren't providing =
dialup service anymore. We still have a couple of our web-hosting =
customers, but for the most part we've moved on to running an unrelated =
web-based service. Having our own address space is nice because it means =
we don't have to worry about stepping on anyone's AUP, we can go =
multi-homed later as the usage goes up, and we don't have to worry about =
running out of space as the web service grows. The problem is that while =
we met the eligibility requirements for an ipv4 direct allocation back =
when we got it, the requirements have changed over time and we no longer =
meet the eligibility requirements for an ipv4 direct allocation. (We've =
shrunk quite a bit) As demand for the remaining ipv4 addresses goes up, =
ARIN might decide that since we're ineligible for an allocation under =
the current rules, we're no longer eligible to maintain the space we =
have, and take it away from us.=20
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> As the remaining space gets smaller, I expect that the number needed =
to justify keeping my addresses is going to go up. I fear I'm already on =
thin ice.
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If you don't sign the LRSA, who knows.
If you sign the LRSA, you're completely protected regardless of future =
policy changes.
Owen
