[136760] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: quietly....
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (R A Lichtensteiger)
Fri Feb 4 17:34:49 2011
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:34:43 -0500
From: R A Lichtensteiger <rali+nanog@tifosi.com>
To: david raistrick <drais@icantclick.org>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1102041702590.54349@murf.icantclick.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
david raistrick wrote:
>> Everyone doesn't suddenly get "owned" because there isn't a external
>> firewall. Modern OS's default to secure.
>
> We clearly live and work in different worlds. Not to mention that
> "we" are not the average consumers anymore. We were, in the days
> before NAT (and SPI).
A quick mental review of my relatives indicates more than a few of
them with a PC jacked into a cable modem. The only firewall is the
one that comes with Windows.
Sure, pretty much every company and +some+ residential service has a
firewall fo some sort in place, but they aren't the automatic default
that you are assuming. As you say, "live and work in different
worlds."
Reto
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R A Lichtensteiger rali@tifosi.com
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