[136619] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: quietly....
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Huff)
Thu Feb 3 17:20:11 2011
From: Matthew Huff <mhuff@ox.com>
To: "Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>, Lamar Owen
<lowen@pari.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:19:57 -0500
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Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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In a corporate environment, that's the way it's been for almost 30 years. T=
he feeling I get is that people want to re-litigate that with Ipv6, and mak=
e every desktop an end-to-end node. Not going to happen. In most corporate =
environments, even with sarcasm, you are right. There are clients and there=
are servers there are no such things as nodes. This is a major reason ther=
e is very little deployment of ipv6 within corporate networks. Things like =
DHCPv6 integrated with NAC/802.1x, RA Guard, etc are another. Oh, and telli=
ng everyone that all server addresses had to be dynamic and determined by y=
our ISP (PA space) was another funny. Again, not going to happen.=20
We have PI space and are testing Ipv6, but still waiting on consistent supp=
ort from all Oses in use (Solaris, Linux and various flavors of Windows). T=
hings like address token support (works fine in Solaris, I assume it's avai=
lable somewhere in Linux but can't find it), and not available at all with =
Windows.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:47 PM
> To: Lamar Owen
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: quietly....
>=20
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:20:25 EST, Lamar Owen said:
> > FTP is a in essence a peer-to-peer protocol, as both ends initiate TCP =
streams. I know that's
> nitpicking, but it is true.
>=20
> Well, it's official - the original end-to-end design principal of the Int=
ernet is
> dead, deceased, and buried. Henceforth, there will be Clients, and there=
will
> be Servers, and all nodes will be permanently classified as one or the ot=
her,
> with no changing or intermixing of status allowed.
