[136618] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: quietly....
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Thu Feb 3 17:17:45 2011
To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:00:55 EST."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:17:09 -0500
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:00:55 EST, Jay Ashworth said:
> Wow. $ANONYMOUS_COMMENTER was right: end-to-end isn't an engineering principle,
> it's a religion.
No, I was commenting on the "FTP is peer-to-peer as both ends initiate
connections" (which is true as far as it goes) - but when you look at the
bigger context of "what protocols besides VoIP and p2p" it's important. First
off, VoIP is merely one special case of peer-to-peer.
The second, and more important, point is that if end-to-end is a religion,
there is another, even more sizeable religion called "The Internet As A Whole
Doesn't Need Any More Than The Small Subset of Protocols I Need For *MY*
Network".
Seems there's a lot of engineers out there that only want to make sure
last year's protocols work, and are willing to totally ignore next year's.
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