[134795] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: arin and ops fora (was Re: AltDB?)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Tue Jan 11 02:02:41 2011
From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
In-Reply-To: <70BCF9E7-BC8E-4C81-A5C7-32F47EB55575@delong.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:23:33 -0800
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Owen,
On Jan 8, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> I suspect part of the issue is that ARIN is a monopoly provider of a =
variety public services that folks unrelated (directly) to ARIN must =
make use of. In other areas of public service provision, there are =
things like public utilities commissions that (in theory) ensure the =
monopoly service provider acts in the public benefit when services are =
added/changed/deleted. My impression is that the various WGs and SIGs =
in the other RIRs perform something similar to that function. There =
doesn't appear to be anything similar in the ARIN region.
>=20
> In ARIN, there are things like BoT elections and the BoT very much =
fulfills the role of the PUC as you describe above.
Well, ARIN BoT members are fiduciarily responsible for ARIN. PUC =
members, to my understanding, are responsible to the public. In my =
experience on ARIN's board, the key role of the board was to ensure the =
public policy process was followed, not oversight of how public services =
are provided. However, things might have changed -- that was some time =
ago. =20
> People can submit requests for operational changes to ARIN through the =
ACSP and in my experience they get a good review
> and comment period by the community
Which community? ARIN or NANOG?
> and the board listens to these things and responds appropriately.
Somewhat as an aside, I'm a bit surprised the board would get involved =
at the level of detail this implies. I would've thought how public =
services are to be provided would be an operational decision made by the =
ARIN CEO/staff and that the board would only get involved to ensure =
sufficient resources were available.
> Especially if a
> suggestion receives significant support, it tends to get implemented.
My impression of the concern is that the definition of support and =
decisions regarding what gets implemented are made within a subset of =
the network operations community.
Regards,
-drc
