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Re: arin and ops fora (was Re: AltDB?)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Jan 10 19:38:07 2011

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <4D2B9622.6060706@brightok.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:36:34 -0800
To: Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net>
Cc: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

>> PPML is a forum for the community (not just ARIN members, the entire =
community).
> Good to know. I was under the impression that it was member only.
>=20
Nope... Anyone interested can subscribe to PPML.

>> There is a separate mailing list... arin-discuss which is for members =
of ARIN to discuss
>> any ARIN-related topic of interest to the membership. They can and =
sometimes do
>> discuss operational matters there.
>>=20
> Except it's listed as no input from ARIN itself?
>=20
ARIN does occasionally send informational postings to arin-discuss, but, =
you are correct
that ARIN staff does not engage in the discussions on that list.

Perhaps a mechanism for ARIN participation would be a good improvement =
in this area.

>> Everything you are asking for in your last paragraph is available. =
Perhaps what is needed
>> is better education of the membership and community on what tools are =
available and how
>> to use them. Were you familiar with arin-discuss prior to this =
message? If so, in what way
>> does it not meet the need you are describing?
>>=20
> I can't get subscribed, so, :P
>=20
I'll try to address this issue with you off-list.

> I also haven't seen on the website pointers for where different tools =
and resources fall into for community review, comment, suggestion, etc. =
Perhaps it's just my website navigation skills. However, as I said =
previously, I have no serious complaints. It's not like the AC and CEO =
aren't publicly visible and vocal.
>=20
Thanks... We try to be accessible to the community for just this reason.

I think the website doesn't particularly point to those things, but, =
there pretty much are only
three directions to go and the web site does provide a description of =
each one...

PPML for discussion of number resource policies and related matters.

ACSP for suggestions and consultations of the community on non-policy =
matters.

arin-discuss mailing list for discussion with other members about any =
topic of interest
to the ARIN membership, potentially including demand/desire for tools, =
operational
practices of ARIN, fees, etc.

Does that help?

Owen



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