[133736] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marshall Eubanks)
Thu Dec 16 14:03:36 2010
From: Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv>
In-Reply-To: <8224CA72-D111-4EF6-AD94-F52B0A7EFA4B@puck.nether.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:03:27 -0500
To: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
Cc: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
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> On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
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>> Pardon my ignorance here but what does Comcast do for the NANOG =
community?
>> I know they attend many conferences and share their experiences with =
a lot
>> of us which is very much appreciated...
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> I'm sure the concern is that Comcast signed up to return NANOG =
(newNOG?) to philly.
They also were the sponsor for IETF-71 in Philly in 2008.
Regards
Marshall
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> I think they may be overly sensitive to some of the comments, just as =
if people were posting similar comments about my employer, I would =
likely be sensitive. (Also there are a lot of people who post stuff but =
don't actually attend NANOG meetings. There is this overlap but =
disjoint as well between the two in my experience. Hope everyone is =
wearing their teflon pants).
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> Aside from the 'public comments', the leaked graphics (which I =
personally would believe are accurate, but the motives of the leakers =
not obvious), I don't directly have a role here. I understand comcast =
has a lot of infrastructure and costs. Likely more fiber than the =
incumbent telcos, and they are constrained by a variety of local =
business conditions from doing what may be a more optimal solution for =
themselves.
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> All that said, the whole issue of 'local content' is going to continue =
to rage on for years to come. Getting the content closer to the end =
user is going to be a key to reducing costs for the long-tail providers =
to homes and businesses. Should it be incumbent on the CDNs to pay for =
colo at the headend? That's a business decision that will entirely be =
driven by these ongoing disputes.
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> It surely feels like we are slowly going down the road of telco-style =
settlement based on call direction. I've observed some trends that =
point at this happening when someone has a fortress they wish to defend, =
monetize or subsidize further. Will it win out? I'm not entirely sure.
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> - Jared
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