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Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Thu Dec 16 13:58:16 2010

From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <008301cb9d50$6b0b0560$41211020$@org>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:58:08 -0500
To: "Paul Stewart" <paul@paulstewart.org>
Cc: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:

> Pardon my ignorance here but what does Comcast do for the NANOG =
community?
> I know they attend many conferences and share their experiences with a =
lot
> of us which is very much appreciated...

I'm sure the concern is that Comcast signed up to return NANOG (newNOG?) =
to philly.

I think they may be overly sensitive to some of the comments, just as if =
people were posting similar comments about my employer, I would likely =
be sensitive.  (Also there are a lot of people who post stuff but don't =
actually attend NANOG meetings.  There is this overlap but disjoint as =
well between the two in my experience.  Hope everyone is wearing their =
teflon pants).

Aside from the 'public comments', the leaked graphics (which I =
personally would believe are accurate, but the motives of the leakers =
not obvious), I don't directly have a role here.  I understand comcast =
has a lot of infrastructure and costs.  Likely more fiber than the =
incumbent telcos, and they are constrained by a variety of local =
business conditions from doing what may be a more optimal solution for =
themselves.

All that said, the whole issue of 'local content' is going to continue =
to rage on for years to come.  Getting the content closer to the end =
user is going to be a key to reducing costs for the long-tail providers =
to homes and businesses. Should it be incumbent on the CDNs to pay for =
colo at the headend?  That's a business decision that will entirely be =
driven by these ongoing disputes.

It surely feels like we are slowly going down the road of telco-style =
settlement based on call direction.  I've observed some trends that =
point at this happening when someone has a fortress they wish to defend, =
monetize or subsidize further.  Will it win out?  I'm not entirely sure.

	- Jared=


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