[133451] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [Operational] Internet Police
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
Thu Dec 9 13:52:13 2010
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinHSNB9wO0Zw2cawf99Nua8K8TNm9GPSX6-bTjn@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 00:22:04 +0530
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>
To: Michael Smith <michael@hmsjr.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog. org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
And if I ever find the genius who came up with the "we are not the
internet police" meme ...
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's put it this way.
>
> 1. If you host government agencies, provide connectivity to say a
> nuclear power plant or an army base, or a bank or .. .. - you'd
> certainly work with your customers to meet their security
> requirements.
>
> 2. If you are a service provider serving up DSL - why then, there are
> some governments (say Australia) that have blacklists of child porn
> sites - and I think Interpol came up with something similar too. =C2=A0An=
d
> yes there's CALEA and a few other such things .. not much more that's
> new.
>
> Separating rhetoric and military metaphors will help you see this a
> lot more clearly. =C2=A0As will not dismissing the entire idea with
> contempt.
>
> As a service provider for anything at all, you'll see your share of attac=
ks.
>
> Whether coordinated by 4chan or by comrade joe chan shouldnt really
> matter, except at the level where you work with law enforcement etc to
> coordinate a response that goes beyond the technical. =C2=A0[And ALL
> responses to these are not going to restrict themselves to being
> solvable by technical means].
>
> --srs
>
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Michael Smith <michael@hmsjr.com> wrote=
:
>> How is "what to block" identified? =C2=A0...by content key words? =C2=A0=
..traffic
>> profiles / signatures? =C2=A0Deny all, unless flow (addresses/protocol/p=
ort) is
>> pre-approved / registered?
>>
>> What does the technical solution look like?
>>
>> Any solutions to maintain some semblance of freedom?
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)
>
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Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)
