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Re: [Operational] Internet Police

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
Thu Dec 9 13:49:44 2010

In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimyjqrdbayyfLsXXk4cYvFedfcHTSnN+ghazDDx@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 00:19:36 +0530
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>
To: Michael Smith <michael@hmsjr.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog. org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Let's put it this way.

1. If you host government agencies, provide connectivity to say a
nuclear power plant or an army base, or a bank or .. .. - you'd
certainly work with your customers to meet their security
requirements.

2. If you are a service provider serving up DSL - why then, there are
some governments (say Australia) that have blacklists of child porn
sites - and I think Interpol came up with something similar too.  And
yes there's CALEA and a few other such things .. not much more that's
new.

Separating rhetoric and military metaphors will help you see this a
lot more clearly.  As will not dismissing the entire idea with
contempt.

As a service provider for anything at all, you'll see your share of attacks=
.

Whether coordinated by 4chan or by comrade joe chan shouldnt really
matter, except at the level where you work with law enforcement etc to
coordinate a response that goes beyond the technical.  [And ALL
responses to these are not going to restrict themselves to being
solvable by technical means].

--srs

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Michael Smith <michael@hmsjr.com> wrote:
> How is "what to block" identified? =C2=A0...by content key words? =C2=A0.=
.traffic
> profiles / signatures? =C2=A0Deny all, unless flow (addresses/protocol/po=
rt) is
> pre-approved / registered?
>
> What does the technical solution look like?
>
> Any solutions to maintain some semblance of freedom?
>



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Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)


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