[133419] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Mastercard problems
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joseph Prasad)
Thu Dec 9 08:14:10 2010
In-Reply-To: <4D00A373.3010806@prt.org>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 05:14:02 -0800
From: Joseph Prasad <joseph.prasad@gmail.com>
To: Paul Thornton <prt@prt.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
here is the audio from BBC Radio 4.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11935539
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Paul Thornton <prt@prt.org> wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 20:42, Jack Bates wrote:
>
>> Of course, it's debatable if use of LOIC is enough to convict. You'd
>> have to first prove the person installed it themselves, and then you'd
>> have to prove that they knew it would be used for illegal purposes.
>>
>
> Earlier this morning there were two people interviewed on the BBC radio 4
> Today program (this is considered the BBC's flagship morning news/current
> affairs show on their serious nationwide talk radio station) about this -
> one was a security consultant and another was a member of/spokesman for the
> 'operation payback' group. One wonders why the Met Police didn't have
> someone waiting to have a quiet chat with the latter when he left the
> studio.
>
> Both of them said that people had been voluntarily downloading and
> installing botnet clients on their PCs in order to take part in these DDoS
> attacks. Ignoring, for a moment, the stupidity of such action it is hard to
> see how you'd be able to argue that this was *not* going to be used for
> illegal purposes.
>
> The other amusing part of the interview was when the security consultant
> started off very well explaining a DDoS in layman's terms, but then veered
> off using the terms HTTP, UDP and IP in one sentence causing the presenter
> to intervene as it "was getting a tad too technical there".
>
> Paul.
>
>
