[130348] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AT&T Dry Pairs?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew Carey)
Fri Oct 1 11:22:38 2010
In-Reply-To: <14DEDC0A-D15E-49C4-8D96-33CB85761C8A@delong.com>
From: Andrew Carey <carey@ar-ballbat.org>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:22:28 -0700
To: "brandon.galbraith@gmail.com" <brandon.galbraith@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Or a (utility) telemetry circuit.
None of these will necessarily get you a dry copper loop, depending on the f=
acilities serving your two locations. Also the circuit length will undoubted=
ly be longer than 100ft so keep that in mind for whatever you're planning to=
do with it.=20
You might also try a local CLEC. They can get dry loops from AT&T in differe=
nt qualities that match your intended use from a simple dry voice grade loop=
to an unloaded DSL capable loop. Whether the CLEC provide it to you in that=
form is another matter. Even if they do so, the loops may not be straight c=
opper all the way through.=20
On Oct 1, 2010, at 3:25, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> Try asking for one of the following:
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> 1. Farmer Line
> 2. Alarm Circuit
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> I think there are a few other ways to ask for a dry pair that might circum=
vent
> the limited know-how of the people you are talking to, but, I don't recall=
> them off the top of my head.
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> Owen
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> On Sep 30, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote:
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>> Has anyone had any luck lately getting dry pairs from AT&T? I'm in the
>> Chicago area attempting to get a dry pair between two buildings (100ft
>> apart) for some equipment, but when speaking to several folks at AT&T the=
>> response I get is "You want AT&T service without the service? That's not
>> logical!". Had no problems 3-4 years ago getting these sorts of "circuits=
",
>> but it appears it's gone the way of the dodo now. Any emails off-list are=
>> appreciated.
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>> --=20
>> Brandon Galbraith
>> US Voice: 630.492.0464
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