[130155] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Randy in Nevis
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Peach)
Wed Sep 29 09:23:22 2010
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:23:10 -0400
From: John Peach <john-nanog@johnpeach.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <21187E8C-5204-4CCA-B145-B48FBED771AD@delong.com>
Reply-To: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 06:16:04 -0700
Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
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> On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:10 AM, John Peach wrote:
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> > On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:06:02 +0200
> > Bj=F8rn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> wrote:
> >=20
> >> John Peach <john-nanog@johnpeach.com> writes:
> >>=20
> >>> It's common knowledge that 465 is smtps, whatever else IANA might
> >>> say.
> >>=20
> >> It's common knowledge that 465 *was* smtps. A decade ago. But it
> >> has never gone anywhere, and it is way overdue for an "obsolete"
> >> tag. Everyone actually caring about SMTP over SSL are using
> >> STARTTLS on port 25 and 587. The faster we kill SMTPS the
> >> better. Keeping it in current /etc/services and the like is only
> >> going to confuse people.
> >=20
> > You obviously don't use a Blackberry with an imap(s) server.....
> >=20
> What does imap(s) have to do with 465/SMTP?
Too early in the morning and I was not advocating maintaining SMTPS.
--=20
John
