[130154] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Randy in Nevis
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Sep 29 09:18:55 2010
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <20100929091055.27e73b33@jpeach-desktop>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 06:16:04 -0700
To: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Sep 29, 2010, at 6:10 AM, John Peach wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:06:02 +0200
> Bj=F8rn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> wrote:
>=20
>> John Peach <john-nanog@johnpeach.com> writes:
>>=20
>>> It's common knowledge that 465 is smtps, whatever else IANA might
>>> say.
>>=20
>> It's common knowledge that 465 *was* smtps. A decade ago. But it =
has
>> never gone anywhere, and it is way overdue for an "obsolete" tag.
>> Everyone actually caring about SMTP over SSL are using STARTTLS on
>> port 25 and 587. The faster we kill SMTPS the better. Keeping it in
>> current /etc/services and the like is only going to confuse people.
>=20
> You obviously don't use a Blackberry with an imap(s) server.....
>=20
What does imap(s) have to do with 465/SMTP?
Owen
