[129635] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Sep 14 13:09:21 2010
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <4C8F991A.70309@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:08:32 -0700
To: Dave Sparro <dsparro@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Sep 14, 2010, at 8:47 AM, Dave Sparro wrote:
> On 9/13/2010 12:05 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>=20
>> It's a question of double-billing. I've already paid you to send and
>> receive packets on my behalf. Detuning my packets because a second
>> party hasn't also paid you is cheating, maybe fraudulent.
>>=20
>=20
> Would you object to an ISP model where a content provider could pay to =
get an ISP subscriber's package upgraded on a dynamic basis?
>=20
Yes... Because the reality is that it wouldn't be an upgrade. It would =
be a euphemism for downgrading the subscriber's experience with other =
content providers.
> It would look something like my Road Runner PowerBoost(tm) service, =
only it never cuts off when the consumer is accessing a particular =
content provider's service.
>=20
Except that PowerBoost(tm) provides a burstable service where the =
capacity is already available and using it would not negatively impact =
other subscribers. This, on the other had, would create an SLA requiring =
your ISP to either build out quite a bit of additional capacity (not so =
likely) or to negatively impact their other subscribers in order to =
deliver content to the subscriber using this enhanced service.
> That would allow Netflix/Hulu/OnLive/whoever to offer me a streaming =
service that requires a 15Mbps connection even though I'm not willing to =
upgrade my 10 up/1 down ISP connection to get it.
>=20
There's little difference in my mind between this model and a model =
where service provider X is in bed with content provider Y (perhaps they =
share common ownership) and subscribers to provider X are given a =
dramatically better user experience to content Y than to other content =
of a similar nature.
Owen
