[128660] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Lightly used IP addresses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Aug 13 19:15:48 2010
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <4C6587C5.6010600@trelane.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:11:02 -0700
To: Andrew Kirch <trelane@trelane.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
If you know of actual fraud or abuse, please report it to ARIN. ARIN =
does
investigate and attempt to resolve those issues.
Owen
On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Kirch wrote:
> Jeff,
>=20
> Go for it. I've always wondered what ARIN had between it's legs.
>=20
> Andrew
>=20
> On 8/13/2010 1:53 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
>> 9. I could point out so many cases of "justification abuse" or
>> outright fraudulent justification and I bet nothing would actually
>> transpire.
>>=20
>> My two cents.
>>=20
>> Jeff
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Owen DeLong<owen@delong.com> =
wrote:
>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:36 AM, John Levine wrote:
>>>=20
>>>>> =
http://www.circleid.com/posts/psst_interested_in_some_lightly_used_ip_addr=
esses/
>>>>> Discuss. :-)
>>>> I don't entirely understand the process. Here's the flow chart as =
far
>>>> as I've figured it out:
>>>>=20
>>>> 1. A sells a /20 of IPv4 space to B for, say, $5,000
>>>>=20
>>>> 2. A tells ARIN to transfer the chunk to B
>>>>=20
>>>> 3. ARIN says no, B hasn't shown that they need it
>>>>=20
>>>> 4. A and B say screw it, and B announces the space anyway
>>>>=20
>>>> 5. ???
>>>>=20
>>>> R's,
>>>> John
>>> 6. ARIN receives a fraud/abuse complaint that A's space is =
being used by B.
>>> 7. ARIN discovers that A is no longer using the space in =
accordance with their RSA
>>> 8. ARIN reclaims the space and A and B are left to figure out =
who owes what to whom.
>>>=20
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