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Re: IPv4 Exhaustion...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ricky Beam)
Mon Jul 26 16:45:20 2010

To: "Owen DeLong" <owen@delong.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:45:07 -0400
From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <A2E65DC1-C47B-4905-985E-628C665E7183@delong.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:48:13 -0400, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> ... Very Interesting Times for ISPs that deploy LSN and are subject to  
> CALEA.

CALEA is not a time machine.  When an order is received, the "collection  
agency" starts receiving traffic; nothing (or at most, very little) is  
known prior to the wiretap order.  Put another way, you cannot be ordered  
to produce tapes of phone call that happened a month ago. (CALEA only says  
you must have the ability to monitor anyone; not that you must be  
monitoring everyone to have "stuff" available before being asked for it.)

With CALEA, you're innocent until there's a reason to think otherwise.   
With the RIAA/MPAA/et.al., we're all guilty, all the time, so everything  
should be monitored until they get around to suing, err, extorting us.

--Ricky


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