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Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg Whynott)
Wed Jun 30 17:15:15 2010

From: Greg Whynott <Greg.Whynott@oicr.on.ca>
To: Ricky Beam <jfbeam@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:14:57 -0400
In-Reply-To: <op.ve4r6qoktfhldh@rbeam.xactional.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Ricky Beam wrote:

> Personally, I prefer a bit of both. =20

same here.  both have some things which I don't agree with.   prime example=
 again is adding more than X vlans to an interface,  why the "add"?

interface TenGigabitEthernet5/5
 switchport trunk allowed vlan 20,30,40,50,60,100,121,124,125,128,334-336
 switchport trunk allowed vlan add 500-505,509,510,513,515-518,530,532,540

that should all be able to go onto one line. I don't follow the logic.  =20

we could sit here all day nit picking I guess.   It was more my managers ra=
ge on that fateful day that made me hate that 'method' so much.  8)

>> not being able to issue commands while in config mode (without the 'do')=
 =20
>> is annoying as hell too..
>=20
> This is a safety measure to keep your mind on the road.  A typo in config=
 =20
> mode can make a seriously royal mess.

 I dis-agree with you on this.     who might they be to determine my abilit=
y to not mess things up,  and why are the so concerned?    and how does thi=
s logic follow onto ASA/PIX/FWSM and WLC devices?   when you are enabled an=
d in config mode on those you can issue non elevated commands.  there is mu=
ch more potential for damage on an edge security device than an inter depar=
tmental switch/router I'd think.  but i could be wrong=85. =20

>=20
>> ... that woudl be the second issue,  the lack of consistency between =20
>> devices.  cisco owns that one.
>=20
> No they don't.  Which version of IOS are you running? Oh, right, that =20
> switch doesn't run IOS, it runs CatOS?  Wait a min, that's a 1900... it =
=20
> uses a menu interface.

haha.  I have to agree with you there. i stand corrected.  It been awhile s=
ince i used a "set" based IOS.

>=20
> I have three Cisco switches right here that are radically different.  In =
=20
> fact, the 2948G-L3 confused a CCIE for several weeks. :-) Until I told hi=
m =20
> stop thinking "switch" and config it like a 48 port router. (and sadly, i=
t =20
> doesn't support interface ranges. :-()

in closing,  i have to say I love HP's "alias" command,   I can rev my conf=
ig and save it to a tftp server by typing "saveit" while enabled.  Some IOS=
's allow you to do a "wr net" and get it there with a predefined tftp serve=
r,  but as we discovered,  this isn't available on all devices..=20


take care and have a great weekend,
greg



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