[126953] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ISP Responsibilities [WAS: Re: Nato warns of strike against cyber
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jorge Amodio)
Wed Jun 9 08:40:37 2010
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilfdVSK16_rvrgfbEhZXHoQ19JjZ-jq4rH8pbys@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:39:47 -0500
From: Jorge Amodio <jmamodio@gmail.com>
To: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> 1. Should ISPs be responsible for abuse from within their customer base?
Not sure, ISPs role is just to move packets from A to B, you need to
clearly define what constitutes abuse and how much of it is considered
a crime.
If I call your home every five minutes to harass you over the phone is
AT&T responsible ?
> 1a. If so, how?
Pull the plug without looking at how much you are billing.
> 2. Should hosting providers also be held responsible for customers who
> abuse their services in a criminal manner?
Same as 1,
> 2.a If so, how?
Same as 1a.
> I think anyone in their right mind would agree that if a provider see
> criminal activity, they should take action, no?
>
> If that also holds true, then why doesn't it happen?
What incentive they have to do so ? and how liable they become if do
something without a court order or such ?
> Providers in the U.S. are the worst offenders of hosting/accommodating
> criminal activities by Eastern European criminals. Period.
Probably true, here money talks.
Cheers
Jorge
