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Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Thu Apr 8 14:04:41 2010

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:00:01 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Dan White <dwhite@olp.net>
In-Reply-To: <20100408175026.GE4808@dan.olp.net>
Cc: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>,
	Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 12:50:26PM -0500, Dan White wrote:
> On 08/04/10 17:17 +0000, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> >	in the IPv4 space, it was common to have a min allocation size of 
> >	a /20 ... or 4,096 addresses ... and yet this amnt of space was
> >	allocated to someone who only needed to address "3 servers"... say
> >	six total out of a pool of four thousand ninty six.  
> 
> Granted, that may have been the case many years ago.
> 
> However, this was not our experience when we obtained addresses, and the
> ARIN rules as I understand them would not allow such an allocation today.

	i picked a fairly recent example - the min allocation
	size has fluctuated over time.  still it is not the case
	that most folks will get -exactly- what they need - they 
	will - in nearly every case - get more address space than
	they need - due to the min allocation rules

> >	Thats a huge amnt of wasted space.  If our wise and pragmatic leaders
> >	(drc, jc, et.al.) are correct, then IPv4 will be around for a very
> >	long time.
> >
> >	What, if any, plan exists to improve the utilization density of the
> >	existant IPv4 pool?  
> 
> I believe your question is based on an outdated assumption.

	and that outdated assumption is?

> Dan White

--bill



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