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Re: Finding content in your job title

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Apr 7 19:39:44 2010

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <201004072245.o37MjBVS024092@metis.hicks-net.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:34:38 -0700
To: Gregory Hicks <ghicks@hicks-net.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Gregory Hicks wrote:

>=20
>> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:39:09 -0700
>> From: Jeroen van Aart <jeroen@mompl.net>
>> To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
>> Subject: Re: Finding content in your job title
>>=20
>> Lamar Owen wrote:
>>> companies, Official Title is used to determine salary (or even
>>> whether you're an exempt employee or not).  And the company's
>>> bylaws may invest particular
>>=20
>> Unless I misread the laws regarding this, in CA at least you still
>> have to earn ~$40/hr or more (it varies and last I read it was
>> lowered a few $s) or more to be considered exempt, regardless of your
>> job title
>=20
> Actually, it doesn't matter how much you make per hour, the deciding
> factor between exempt and non-exempt is how many (if any) people you
> SUPERVISE.  No supervision of others, then non-exempt.
>=20
That is not entirely correct.  The actual text of the law, IIRC, reads =
to the
effect of "Work which is primarily intellectual or managerial in =
nature..."

In other words, if you are management _OR_ some form of technical
professional.  Most of the technical individual contributors I know that
are in the 6-figure realm are exempt.

You can find California Guidance on this matter here:

http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/faq_OvertimeExemptions.htm

More information is available here:

http://www.management-advantage.com/products/overtime-exempt.html

For further information, refer to the California Labor Code, near =
section 515.
(515.5 applies to this industry)

Other states may vary.

Owen



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