[124910] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Apr 7 12:55:01 2010
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <q2p3c3e3fca1004070922o18a13051reca52c1da12b995f@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:49:33 -0700
To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Apr 7, 2010, at 9:22 AM, William Herrin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:09 PM, John Palmer (NANOG Acct)
> <nanog2@adns.net> wrote:
>> Was looking at the ARIN IP6 policy and cannot find any reference to =
those
>> who have
>> IP4 legacy space.
>>=20
>> Isn't there an automatic allocation for those of us who have legacy =
IP
>> space. If not, is ARIN
>> saying we have to pay them a fee to use IP6? Isn't this a =
disincentive for
>> us to move up to IP6?
>>=20
>> Those with legacy IP4 space should have the equivalent IP6 space =
under the
>> same terms. Or am I missing something?
>=20
> Hi John,
>=20
> The game is:
>=20
> Sign ARIN's "Legacy RSA" covering your legacy space. With the LRSA you
> retain more rights than folks who sign the regular RSA, but probably
> less rights than you have now.
>=20
More accurately, you retain more rights than the standard RSA and you
move from a situation where your exact rights are unknown and
undetermined with no contractual relationship between you and ARIN
to a situation where your rights are assured, enumerated, and a
contractual relationship exists between you and ARIN governing
the services you are receiving from ARIN.
> Pay your $100/year as an end-user. You now qualify for an IPv6
> assignment under ARIN NRPM 6.5.8.1b regardless of the size of your
> network.
>=20
> Pay the $1250 IPv6 initial assignment fee.
>=20
This is correct. I would like to see initial registration fee waivers =
for
IPv6 end-user assignments. I've brought the subject up on arin-discuss.
There was substantial opposition to the idea. If you would like to see
that happen, I encourage you to voice your opinion there.
>=20
> For better or for worse, you're not going to get IPv6 space under the
> "same terms" as your legacy IPv4 space. You got a really good deal on
> IPv4. Try not to be too disappointed that the same deal isn't
> available with IPv6.
>=20
Well said, Bill.
Owen