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Re: IP4 Space - the lie

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Fri Mar 5 07:43:02 2010

Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:39:19 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Steve Bertrand <steve@ibctech.ca>
In-Reply-To: <4B907507.800@ibctech.ca>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 10:05:43PM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> On 2010.03.04 20:55, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > 
> > I proffer that
> > such effort is better spent moving towards IPv6 dual stack on your
> > networks.
> 
> I *wholeheartedly* agree with Owen's assessment. Even spending time
> trying to calculate a rebuttal to his numbers is better spent moving
> toward dual-stack ;)
> 
> Nice.
> 
> Steve


	er... what part of dual-stack didn't you understand?
	dual-stack consumes exactly the same number of v4 and v6 addresses.
	
	if you expect to dual-stack everything - you need to look again.
	either you are going to need:

	lots more IPv4 space

	stealing ports to mux addresses

	run straight-up native IPv6 - no IPv4 (unless you need to talk to 
	a v4-only host - then use IVI or similar..)

	imho - the path through the woods is an IVI-like solution.

--bill


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