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Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Mon Mar 1 22:04:11 2010

From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <BECAED262016464A9C59788DA6AC9690048525CC25@EMAIL05.pnl.gov>
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:03:51 -0500
To: "Akyol, Bora A" <bora@pnl.gov>
Cc: 'Michael Sokolov' <msokolov@ivan.Harhan.ORG>,
	"nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Akyol, Bora A wrote:

> Michael
>=20
> I think for the people in the situation you are describing, the best =
bet would be
> one of the wireless technologies. Someone on the thread mentioned LTE =
(which should
> be coming out in a couple years time), and to that we can add WiMAX =
and=20
> even the 3G/3.5G HSPDA type wireless. The prices will not be USD19.99 =
but for
> less than USD70/month it is quite possible to get reasonable high =
speed Internet=20
> access. Will it be as fast as GigE to the house? No. But it will =
certainly support
> most web apps. The only challenge is that some of these wireless =
technologies still have
> much higher latency when compared to the wired DSL/cable modem links.

Some of the WISP hardware is getting "cheap".  It's no longer $500 NIUs, =
you can get something that can go a fair distance at high speeds for =
~$80.

http://www.ubnt.com/products/nanobridge.php

You can find used microwave (unlicensed & licensed) equipment "cheap" as =
well. ($1-2k per pair/hop).

The FTTH equipment is ~$600 for 20km reach @ 1Gb/s.

Life is getting interesting these days.. I'm seeing interest in solving =
this last mile issue, but I suspect some networks will eventually be =
forced to abandon their DSL strategy (ATT, Qwest) before too long.  They =
are going to start to lose out to the competitors.  Verizon seems to be =
the only (large) US based provider with a decent strategy.

I'm expecting regulatory intervention in the next few years to actually =
require universal broadband access from the iLECs, and the only way to =
reach these further distances is with FTTH gear (cost effectively).=20

I have wondered, how many POTS lines do I need to order to get them to =
build fiber/access to me.  Anyone have guesses/data?

- Jared=


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