[123161] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Akyol, Bora A)
Mon Mar 1 20:34:46 2010
From: "Akyol, Bora A" <bora@pnl.gov>
To: 'Michael Sokolov' <msokolov@ivan.Harhan.ORG>, "nanog@nanog.org"
<nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:34:01 -0800
In-Reply-To: <1002270004.AA11084@ivan.Harhan.ORG>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Michael
I think for the people in the situation you are describing, the best bet wo=
uld be
one of the wireless technologies. Someone on the thread mentioned LTE (whic=
h should
be coming out in a couple years time), and to that we can add WiMAX and=20
even the 3G/3.5G HSPDA type wireless. The prices will not be USD19.99 but f=
or
less than USD70/month it is quite possible to get reasonable high speed Int=
ernet=20
access. Will it be as fast as GigE to the house? No. But it will certainly =
support
most web apps. The only challenge is that some of these wireless technologi=
es still have
much higher latency when compared to the wired DSL/cable modem links.
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Sokolov [mailto:msokolov@ivan.Harhan.ORG]=20
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 4:05 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)
Brandon Galbraith <brandon.galbraith@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.rric.net/
I'm very familiar with those folks of course, they've been an inspiration
to me for a long time.
However, my needs are different. RRIC's model basically involves a
specific community with a well-defined boundary: bring the bandwidth
into the community via a bulk feed, then sublet inside the community.
But I don't have a specific community in mind - I'm trying to develop a
more generic solution. (The case of my friend who is at 31 kft from a
Covad-enabled CO is only an example and nothing more.) Again, consider
a town with a Covad-enabled CO plus an outlying countryside. The people
in the town proper already have Covad xDSL available to them, and if we
could stick my SDSL/2B1Q repeater in the middle of some longer loops, it
would enable the people in the countryside to get *exactly the same*
Covad (or ISP-X-via-Covad) services as those in the town proper.
My repeater approach would also allow me to stay out of ISP or ISP-like
business which I really don't want to get into - I would rather just
make hardware and let someone else operate it. A repeater is totally
unlike a router, it is not IP-aware, it just makes the loop seem shorter,
allowing farther-outlying users to connect to *existing* ISPs with an
already established business structure.
Anyway, I just saw a post on NANOG about an area deprived of "high-speed
Internet" services and thought I would post my idea in the hope that
someone would have some ideas that would actually be *helpful* to what
I'm trying to do. If not - oh well, I'll just put the idea back on the
dusty shelf in the back of my mind until I'm ready to try presenting it
to the folks who own the CO-colocated DSLAMs it would have to work with
- gotta finish a few other things before I open that can of worms in the
earnest.
MS
