[122979] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Competition for Internap's FCP product.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rubens Kuhl)
Thu Feb 25 14:23:40 2010
In-Reply-To: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D70018570F75D@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:23:05 -0300
From: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@gmail.com>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Is your burstable bandwidth cost high enough to pay 100K for a gear
just to meet the commitments ? NAGIOS/CACTI monitoring alerts sent to
someone (which may be hired help from any place in the world) would
probably beat that in cost effectiveness.
The performance requirement is where a line is drawn between manual
configuration and automated BGP manipulation.
Rubens
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Drew Weaver <drew.weaver@thenap.com> wrot=
e:
> Hi,
>
> As my Avaya CNA/Route Science box begins to seriously age, and without th=
e support of Avaya for 'Service Provider' uses of the product, I have been =
looking for alternatives to the product.
>
> The value we get from this product is mainly in the ability to easily man=
age our bandwidth commitments in a hands off way without having to manually=
manipulate anything. I have no real illusions that the 'performance' side =
of things is 'arguable' at best with these sorts of products due to the nat=
ure of the Internet.
>
> Internap to me stands out as essentially the only alternative to this pro=
duct, but they have been tremendously difficult to work with, they won't al=
low us to demo a unit to see if it offers the same functionality as our cur=
rent solution. The reason they won't allow us to a demo a unit is because t=
hey 'don't stock them'. So basically they have 0 units until someone orders=
one, that is fine if that is their policy but that hasn't really been our =
experience with other hardware vendors that want close to 100K for a piece =
of niche equipment.
>
> My questions are:
>
> -What are other people doing who currently use or used the Avaya/RS produ=
ct in the past?
> -Does anyone know of any competition in this space (aside from hiring a g=
uy that sits there and does this for us manually)?
> -Has Cisco's OER/PFR made any progress in the last few years (is anyone u=
sing it?)
>
> Sorry to disturb,
>
> -Drew
>
>
>
