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Competition for Internap's FCP product.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Drew Weaver)
Thu Feb 25 09:08:42 2010

From: Drew Weaver <drew.weaver@thenap.com>
To: "'nanog@nanog.org'" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:08:06 -0500
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Hi,

As my Avaya CNA/Route Science box begins to seriously age, and without the =
support of Avaya for 'Service Provider' uses of the product, I have been lo=
oking for alternatives to the product.

The value we get from this product is mainly in the ability to easily manag=
e our bandwidth commitments in a hands off way without having to manually m=
anipulate anything. I have no real illusions that the 'performance' side of=
 things is 'arguable' at best with these sorts of products due to the natur=
e of the Internet.

Internap to me stands out as essentially the only alternative to this produ=
ct, but they have been tremendously difficult to work with, they won't allo=
w us to demo a unit to see if it offers the same functionality as our curre=
nt solution. The reason they won't allow us to a demo a unit is because the=
y 'don't stock them'. So basically they have 0 units until someone orders o=
ne, that is fine if that is their policy but that hasn't really been our ex=
perience with other hardware vendors that want close to 100K for a piece of=
 niche equipment.=20

My questions are:

-What are other people doing who currently use or used the Avaya/RS product=
 in the past?
-Does anyone know of any competition in this space (aside from hiring a guy=
 that sits there and does this for us manually)?
-Has Cisco's OER/PFR made any progress in the last few years (is anyone usi=
ng it?)

Sorry to disturb,

-Drew



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