[120136] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Raymond Dijkxhoorn)
Thu Dec 10 12:02:10 2009
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:01:16 +0100 (CET)
From: Raymond Dijkxhoorn <raymond@prolocation.net>
To: Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven@cyberbunker.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0912101653220.9562@scott.cb3rob.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org, dcrocker@bbiw.net
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Hi!
> thing is that it's illegal to maintain a database with "personal details"
> which ip addresses according to various german courts are (don't ask..
> mmk? ;) ofcourse we all know ip addresses identify nodes on a network, not
> persons, but the germans seem to mainain a different view on this,
> despite us isps being the owners of the internet and not the german
> government ;).
>
> therefore we are not even -allowed- to cooperate with trend micro *grin*
>
> sometimes laws really come in handy you know ;)
I am not a german neither do i live there. This is nanog, not denog ;)
Ok and how many german blacklists are in use? There are reasons most of
the blacklists are not based there. Its a silly story and you should
focus on the ISP using the list and not some legal thing. Thats
irrelevant here.
Technically i dont see any new points and stick to the old story.
Contact that ISP and negotiate with them.
Good luck.
bye,
Raymond.
