[120109] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Arrogant RBL list maintainers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Wed Dec 9 22:09:14 2009
From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com>
To: "'Michael Holstein'" <michael.holstein@csuohio.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4B20141D.9090906@csuohio.edu>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:08:07 -0600
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Reply-To: frnkblk@iname.com
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Michael:
I've seen their form, too. I think you're reading too much into their
policies/requests.
Does it matter if they label your non e-mail server IPs as dynamic space,
and therefore put it on their DUL?
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Holstein [mailto:michael.holstein@csuohio.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:18 PM
To: Ken Chase
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers
> To be clear: because the legitimate mailserver with a proper non-generic
> reverse was in a block with other generic reverses, they blacklisted you?
>
Their initial email said :
[snip]
Trend Micro Notification: 137.148.0.0/16 added to DUL
[snip]
and then went on to say :
[snip]
To work with us, please generate the following three lists:
1) TOTAL ALLOCATED SPACE - in CIDR format
Please include all information for the space you announce.
The total of Static and Dynamic space must equal the
Total Allocated Space.
2) DYNAMIC SPACE LIST - in CIDR format
3) STATIC SPACE LIST - in CIDR Format
[snip]
Which was, of course, impossible .. since trunking a VLAN across the
core just to have all the printers in the same /22 would be silly.
After some arguing back-and-forth .. they (Trend) said :
[snip]
Also we don't see the IP address as static as we see the generic naming
convention of
*csuohio.edu* as dynamic and the WHOIS information doesn't indicate that the
space is static.
[snip]
Seriously .. we're a college campus, not a colo. Org-Abuse roles is defined
(and valid) and real people read the RFC2142 required addresses. What more
do these people want?
(Note: they did eventually say "okay, we see the MXs as static so those
aren't listed" .. but not without some discussion).
Cheers,
Michael Holstein
Cleveland State University
