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Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Holstein)
Wed Dec 9 16:18:58 2009

Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:18:21 -0500
From: Michael Holstein <michael.holstein@csuohio.edu>
To: Ken Chase <ken@heavycomputing.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20091209200920.GW19942@sizone.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


> To be clear: because the legitimate mailserver with a proper non-generic
> reverse was in a block with other generic reverses, they blacklisted you?
>  =20

Their initial email said :

[snip]
Trend Micro Notification: 137.148.0.0/16 added to DUL
[snip]

and then went on to say :

[snip]
To work with us, please generate the following three lists:

=20
1) TOTAL ALLOCATED SPACE =96 in CIDR format
     Please include all information for the space you announce.=20
     The total of Static and Dynamic space must equal the=20
     Total Allocated Space.
2) DYNAMIC SPACE LIST - in CIDR format
3) STATIC SPACE LIST - in CIDR Format
[snip]


Which was, of course, impossible .. since trunking a VLAN across the
core just to have all the printers in the same /22 would be silly.

After some arguing back-and-forth .. they (Trend) said :

[snip]

Also we don't see the IP address as static as we see the generic naming con=
vention of=20
*csuohio.edu* as dynamic and the WHOIS information doesn't indicate that th=
e space is static.
[snip]

Seriously .. we're a college campus, not a colo. Org-Abuse roles is defined=
 (and valid) and real people read the RFC2142 required addresses. What more=
 do these people want?

(Note: they did eventually say "okay, we see the MXs as static so those are=
n't listed" .. but not without some discussion).

Cheers,

Michael Holstein
Cleveland State University


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