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Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jorge Amodio)
Tue Dec 8 16:22:15 2009

In-Reply-To: <666B64B8-9736-413C-BE9B-F5F2D3B1BE58@cs.columbia.edu>
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 15:21:30 -0600
From: Jorge Amodio <jmamodio@gmail.com>
To: Steven Bellovin <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: Paul Vixie <vixie@isc.org>, nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

> =A0(Aside: my local library blocks everything but 80 and 443 outbound. =
=A0I complained to the director; he cited "security". =A0I tried explaining=
 that I knew something about Internet security; he told me that the firm th=
at had installed the system had "done most of the libraries in the county".=
 =A0I translate that as "most of the libraries in the county have broken se=
curity policies".)

Among the many wonderful things Internet has created in the past 2+
decades, it gave birth
to a countless number of "Internet Experts" ...

Perhaps a more organized/focused discussion may help kick off an IETF
WG to identify and
document the problems/needs/requirements and an informational RFC/BCP
can be produced,
then the "experts" will know that for better security and reliability
they don't need to
mutilate internet protocols or dismember the Internet.

My .02
Jorge


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