[119209] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: What DNS Is Not
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Mon Nov 9 20:34:30 2009
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
To: North American Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <20091110003221.GC25626@vacation.karoshi.com.>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:32:38 -0500
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any errors.
On Nov 9, 2009, at 19:32, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 06:24:52PM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:
>>
>>> i loved the henry ford analogy -- but i think henry ford would have
>>> said that
>>> the automatic transmission was a huge step forward since he wanted
>>> everybody
>>> to have a car. i can't think of anything that's happened in the
>>> automobile
>>> market that henry ford wouldn't've wished he'd thought of.
>>>
>>> i knew that the "incoherent DNS" market would rise up on its hind
>>> legs and
>>> say all kinds of things in its defense against the ACM Queue
>>> article, and i'm
>>> not going to engage with every such speaker.
>>
>> Paul: I completely agree with you that putting wildcards into the
>> roots, GTLDs, CCTLDs, etc. is a Bad Idea and should be squashed.
>> Users have little (no?) choice on their TLDs. Stopping those is a
>> Good Thing, IMHO.
>>
>> However, I own a domain (or couple hundred :). I have a wildcard on
>> my domain. I point it where I want. I feel not the slightest twinge
>> of guilt at this. Do you think this is a Bad Thing, or should this
>> be
>> allowed?
>>
>
> notbeing Paul, its rude of me to respond - yet you posted this
> to a public list ... so here goes.
>
> Why do you find your behaviour in your domains acceptable and yet
> the
> same behaviour in others zones to be "a Bad Thing" and should be
> stopped?
Thought I was clear: Choice.
I believe there is a qualitative difference between a *TLD and a
second level domain. /Especially/ for the GTLDs.
I guess one could argue CCTLDs are different, but I disagree. If you
are in Germany, a .de is nearly as important as .com in the US.
(Don't believe me? Go to www.dtag.com.)
But no one has to use ianai.net. Or aa.com. Or ....
A second issue is ownership. I own my domain. The .com domain is not
owed by Verisign (despite what they may think :-).
Again, one could make an argument that the CCTLDs are different -
"owned" by their host countries. I personally disagree, but I admit
that argument is less objective than the GTLDs.
Do you disagree wih my logic? Do you believe Verisign should be
allowed to do with .net the same things I should be allowed to do with ianai.net
?
If so, please explain why.
If not, uh ... Why did you ask? =)
--
TTFN,
patrick
