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Re: What DNS Is Not

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Mon Nov 9 20:13:09 2009

Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:10:14 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: "Buhrmaster, Gary" <gtb@slac.stanford.edu>
In-Reply-To: <6F51B50ECF32084788B9B3A8469A71B52916559D1E@EXCHCLUSTER1-02.win.slac.stanford.edu>
Cc: "'bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com'" <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com>,
	NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
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On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 04:52:35PM -0800, Buhrmaster, Gary wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
> > [mailto:bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:32 PM
> > To: Patrick W. Gilmore
> > Cc: NANOG list
> > Subject: Re: What DNS Is Not
> 
> ...
> 
> > 	notbeing Paul, its rude of me to respond - yet you posted this
> > 	to a public list ... so here goes.
> > 
> > 	Why do you find your behaviour in your domains acceptable and yet
> >     the same behaviour in others zones to be "a Bad Thing" and should be
> >     stopped?
> 
> Ok, devils advocate argument.  
> 
> Is there is a difference between being a domain "owner"
> (Patrick wanting to wildcard the domain he has paid for),
> and a domain "custodian" (Verisign for the .com example)
> in whether wildcards are ever acceptable in the DNS
> responses you provide?
> 

	good question - does patrick own the domain or has he paid for
	the registration of mapping a string into a database? either? both?
	neither?

	I'll lay out what I just did in private email a moment ago.

	regardless of payment, ownership, or other considerations, we
	all (who manage a delegation  point) are stewards of that delegation.
	Patrick, as steward of a domain, feels certain behaviours are 
	acceptable when he performs them within his stewardship, yet is
	nonplused when another steward does the exact same thing in a different
	delegation.

	not being able to resist the analogy....

	Its ok for me to practice indentured servitude in my home, yet when I 
	see my neighbor practicing it in their home - I call the cops on her
	for practicing slavery.  and hope that no one notices me.

--bill


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