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Re: Failover how much complexity will it add?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (adel@baklawasecrets.com)
Sun Nov 8 12:34:48 2009

To: <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:34:08 +0000
From: adel@baklawasecrets.com
Reply-To: adel@baklawasecrets.com
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


Thanks for all your comments guys.  With regards to bgp I did
think about placing two bgp routers in front of the ssg's.  However
my limited understanding makes me think that if I had two bgp
connections from different providers I would still have issues.  So
I guess that if my primary Internet goes down I lose connectivity
to all the publicly addressed devices on that connection. Like
dmz hosts and so on.  I would be interested to hear how this=20
can be avoided if at all or do I have to use the same provider.

I should add that we currently have provisioned two ssg in ha
mode.  Also is terminating bgp on the ssg also an option? I really
like the flexibility of route based VPN with addresable tun interfaces.

Thanks

adel
On Sun   3:47 PM , "Joe Maimon" jmaimon@ttec.com sent:
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> adel@
> baklawasecrets.com wrote:> HI,
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> > Now I couldn't get any good answers as to why
> Internet connections 1 and 2 need to be separate.  I think the idea was t=
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> make sure that there was enough bandwidth for the third party support VPN=
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> I feel that I can consolidate this into one connection and just use rate
> limiting to reserve some portion of the bandwidth on the connection and
> this should be fine.  Now if I was to do this then I can make a case for
> just having one backup Internet connection.  However I'm still concerned
> about failover and reliability issues.  So my questions regarding this
> are:>
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> I wouldnt jump to any conclusions that everything will work properly if
> you are terminating multiple connections directly on the SSG, what with
> egress likely being different than the ingress, even if you are using=20
> the same IP range (BGP) on all the links.
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> You could really be asking for trouble if you are planning on using a=20
> different ISP provided IP range on each connection for each purpose.
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> Front it all with routers that can policy route, whether or not you also
> use BGP.
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> Joe
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