[116235] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AT&T. Layer 6-8 needed.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John C. A. Bambenek)
Mon Jul 27 10:04:34 2009
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0907270946380.4187@soloth.lewis.org>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:04:19 -0500
From: "John C. A. Bambenek" <bambenek@gmail.com>
To: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>, William Pitcock <nenolod@systeminplace.net>,
"nanog - n. am. network ops group list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Because most of the net libertarians insist that they should do
whatever they want and everyone else should help cater to them.
Liberty for me but not for thee.
On 7/27/09, Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, William Pitcock wrote:
>
>> It is widely known that AT&T loves censorship. They love censorship
>> because it is profitable for them to love censorship, and this isn't the
>> first time they have enmasse blocked access to a website they didn't
>> like. This has nothing at all to do with forged ACK responses, and
>> everything to do with content.
>
> How does breaking things (censorship) make them more money?
>
> http://njabl.org/faq.html#Q12
>
>> AT&T does not have the right to filter what their users can access,
>> period. You can put all the spin on it that you want, but in the end
>> it's about content.
>
> Whatever happened to "My network, my rules?" If AT&T blocks something,
> and as an AT&T customer, you don't like it, get your connectivity from
> someone else.
>
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