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RE: Fiber cut in SF area

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Beckman)
Mon Apr 13 16:14:52 2009

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:12:29 -0400
From: Peter Beckman <beckman@angryox.com>
To: Scott Weeks <surfer@mauigateway.com>
In-Reply-To: <20090413130059.8D697814@resin09.mta.everyone.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Scott Weeks wrote:

>
>
> --- beckman@angryox.com wrote:
>
>>> I still think skipping the securing of manholes and access
>>> points in favor of active monitoring with offsite access is a
>>> better solution.
>>
>> The only thing missing from your plan was a cost analysis.  Cost of each,
>> plus operational costs, * however many of each type.  How much would that
>> be?
>
>  So, let's see.  I'm pulling numbers out of my butt here, but basing it on
>  non-quantity-discounted hardware available off the shelf.
> -----------------------------------------
>
>
> Manpower to design, build, maintain, train folks and monitor in the NOC.
> Costs of EMS, its maintenance.  blah, blah, blah...

  My estimates are for getting something off the ground, equipment-wise, not
  operationally.

  What is the cost of the outages?  And if this setup can detect un-reported
  backhoe activity via accelerometers BEFORE it slices through the cable and
  you can get someone out to investigate the activity before it gets cut,
  how much is that worth?

  And my estimate was for the hardware, not training, etc.  I'm guessing
  existing NOCs can easily incorporate new SNMP traps or other methods of
  alerts into their system fairly easily.

Beckman
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