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Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jack Bates)
Tue Mar 24 16:20:20 2009

Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:18:16 -0500
From: Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <E4071B6D-C480-4CD8-91B3-47BBC2D85B9D@netconsonance.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Sheesh. I thought I was replying to another mailing list, until I 
cleaned up the recipient list.

Jo Rhett wrote:
> NOTE: for a small mail sending provider who controls every mail server 
> and customer in their netblock, it probably is useful.  It's just 
> useless for colocation providers and generic ISPs.
> 

It works fine for large ISPs and colocation providers; especially those 
who run abacus to process large volumes of reports and keep their time 
well spent. If you spend 2 hours on a feedback loop without any actions 
having to be taken, you're definitely doing something wrong.

> And let's be honest.   AOL's effort shouldn't be applauded.  It's an 
> autobot which sends false spam reports, nothing more and nothing less.  
> Any autobot which sends false spam reports needs to be shut down.
> 

It's not a false spam report? The recipient obviously didn't think they 
wanted the email. For mailing lists/broadcasters, this means it's an opt 
out request. For one to one mail, it's only an issue when it's 
repetitive, in which case, the sender probably needs to be informed that 
the recipient address they are using might not be correct (or the person 
doesn't like their style of email).


Jack

P.S. This really isn't operational and I should probably be shot for 
even replying to the thread, so feel free to reply to me off-list.


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