[111310] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Skeeve Stevens)
Tue Feb 3 17:18:40 2009
From: "Skeeve Stevens" <skeeve@skeeve.org>
To: "'Matthew Huff'" <mhuff@ox.com>,
=?utf-8?Q?'M=C3=A5ns_Nilsson'?= <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>,
"'Zaid Ali'" <zaid@zaidali.com>, "'Roger Marquis'" <marquis@roble.com>
In-Reply-To: <483E6B0272B0284BA86D7596C40D29F984E82B67D6@PUR-EXCH07.ox.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:19:58 +1100
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Reply-To: skeeve@skeeve.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
See my other email.
You don't need to use a providers range.
...Skeeve
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Huff [mailto:mhuff@ox.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2009 8:35 AM
To: 'M=C3=A5ns Nilsson'; 'Zaid Ali'; 'Roger Marquis'
Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
Subject: RE: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space
DNS is great, but there is plenty of stuff to change that doesn't use =
DNS (ACLS, etc...). The point is, why should we go through the pain of =
renumbering, and have to do it everytime our relationship with our ISP =
changes? We aren't going to go there. It isn't renumbering that's the =
problem, the problem is that it being tied to an external company.=20
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: M=C3=A5ns Nilsson [mailto:mansaxel@besserwisser.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 4:19 PM
> To: Matthew Huff; 'Zaid Ali'; 'Roger Marquis'
> Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
> Subject: RE: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space
>=20
> --On tisdag, tisdag 3 feb 2009 13.24.59 -0500 Matthew Huff
> <mhuff@ox.com>
> wrote:
>=20
> > It's not just technical. Companies are reluctant to migrate to an IP
> > address owned by an ISP. We are one of those companies. If and when
> it
> > is easy for us to apply and receive our own Ipv6 address space, we
> will
> > look at deploying ipv6, but not until then. That's not a technical
> > issue, but rather a business decision, and it's not going to =
change.
> We
> > aren't depending our network resources on an external third-party,
> > especially given their track record.
>=20
> Renumbering will happen. Be prepared or cry louder when it happens. =
DNS
> was
> invented for this, and v4 PA space is functionally equivalent to v6
> here.
>=20
> Getting PI space only pushes the inevitable a bit, while lessening the
> incentives to DTRT wrt IP address mobility.
>=20
> --
> M=C3=A5ns Nilsson M A C H I N A
>=20
> YOW!!! I am having fun!!!
