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Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Andrews)
Sat Jan 24 20:01:56 2009

To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
From: Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews@isc.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:38:53 -0800."
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:01:46 +1100
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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In message <8C5F1FEC-FF51-4BA2-A762-C13BC275E806@virtualized.org>, David Conrad writes:
> It would seem that as ISPs implement DPI and protocol-specific traffic  
> shaping, they damage the arguments that they can make claiming they  
> have "common carrier" status with the inherent immunities that status  
> provides.  I can hear the argument now: if an ISP can throttle  
> BitTorrent (or whatever) for specific nodes, why can't they also limit  
> the source addresses of packets coming from those nodes?

	They can and should.  I suspect many of them do as they
	usually apply these filters to home networks.

	BCP 38 is ~10 years old now.  It should have been factored
	into the purchasing decision of all the current equipement.
	If it wasn't then the operator was negligent.

	Mark
 
> Regards,
> -drc
> 
> 
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