[110941] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jamie A Lawrence)
Fri Jan 23 22:50:41 2009
From: Jamie A Lawrence <jal@jal.org>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
In-Reply-To: <80022.1232767919@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:50:09 -0500
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Jan 23, 2009, at 10:31 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:33:14 PST, Seth Mattinen said:
>
>> Back to my original question: is there really not a better solution?
>
> Well, we *could* hunt down the perpetrators, pool some $$, and hire
> 3 or 4
> baseball-bat wielding professional explainers to go explain our
> position to
> them. Figuring out how to do so without breaking any laws is the
> tough part..
The Cameros or SUVs and baseball bats are normally not in sync with
local legal traditions, depending on your local legal statutes. A
certain ISP in California, however, seems to have learned a more
subtle lesson, perhaps with left more satisfying results. And while I
don't think that is any serious fix, I also think that there might
well be a deterrence effect, to whatever extent that works - it might
not kill a system, but it can provide deterrence. Hell, I expect the
perpetrator for this attack to be on this list. So it becomes more
more step on the arms race.
