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Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Lyon)
Fri Jan 23 21:13:39 2009

In-Reply-To: <497A7777.2060003@rollernet.us>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:13:33 -0500
From: Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net>
To: Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

I respectfully disagree. Network engineers have to keep up with many
tasks and preventing DoS/DDoS should be the responsibility of
everyone. I see more folks worried about spam than they are actual
security.

My two cents.

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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us> wrote:
> Noel Butler wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 2009-01-24 at 07:21, Chris McDonald wrote:
>>
>>> We [AS3491] null0'd the IP earlier.  Rest-of-world encouraged to do the
>>> same :/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wrong approach, they are *innocent* in this as are the new targets.
>>
>> insert into your favourite acl:
>> deny udp host 66.230.160.1 neq 53 any eq 53
>> deny udp host 66.230.128.15 neq 53 any eq 53
>>
>> But it's much less work to add a filter on the name server as others
>> have mentioned.
>>
>>
>
>
> Having the world trying to keep up with ACL entries seems futile. Is there
> really nothing to be done about this? (Yes, I know, BCP38, but obviously the
> accomplice providers don't care.)
>
> ~Seth
>
>


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