[110399] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Ethical DDoS drone network
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Mon Jan 5 15:19:24 2009
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 02:39:10 -0600 (CST)
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: kris foster <kris.foster@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <EF5E5AAD-479D-4691-AA39-A47CD05D200F@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, kris foster wrote:
>
> On Jan 4, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 1:33 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote:
>>>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>>> I can think of several instances where it _must_ be external. For
>>> instance, as I said before, knowing which intermediate networks are
>>> incapable of handling the additional load is useful information.
>>>
>>>> But before any testing is done on production systems (during maintenance
>>>> windows scheduled for this type of testing, naturally), it should all be
>>>> done on airgapped labs, first, IMHO.
>>>
>>> Without arguing that point (and there are lots of scenarios where that is
>>> not at all necessary, IMHO), it does not change the fact that external
>>> testing can be extremely useful after "air-gap" testing.
>>
>> Fine test it by simulation on you or the transit end of the pipes. Do not
>> transmit your test sh?t data across the `net.
>
> How do you propose a model is built for the simulation if you can't collect
> data from the real world?
>
> This is not "sh?t data". Performance testing across networks is very real and
> happening now. The more knowledge I have of a path the better decisions I can
> make about that path.
>
I am sorry for joking, I was sure we were talking about DDoS testing?
> Kris
