[110397] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Ethical DDoS drone network
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (kris foster)
Mon Jan 5 15:17:11 2009
From: kris foster <kris.foster@gmail.com>
To: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.999999.0901050110130.20617@linuxbox.org>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 23:43:08 -0800
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Jan 4, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 1:33 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote:
>>> On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> I can think of several instances where it _must_ be external. For
>> instance, as I said before, knowing which intermediate networks are
>> incapable of handling the additional load is useful information.
>>
>>> But before any testing is done on production systems (during
>>> maintenance windows scheduled for this type of testing,
>>> naturally), it should all be done on airgapped labs, first, IMHO.
>>
>> Without arguing that point (and there are lots of scenarios where
>> that is not at all necessary, IMHO), it does not change the fact
>> that external testing can be extremely useful after "air-gap"
>> testing.
>
> Fine test it by simulation on you or the transit end of the pipes.
> Do not transmit your test sh?t data across the `net.
How do you propose a model is built for the simulation if you can't
collect data from the real world?
This is not "sh?t data". Performance testing across networks is very
real and happening now. The more knowledge I have of a path the better
decisions I can make about that path.
Kris
