[110097] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: What to do when your ISP off-shores tech support
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Black)
Wed Dec 24 13:31:45 2008
From: "Matthew Black" <black@csulb.edu>
To: Etaoin Shrdlu <shrdlu@deaddrop.org>,nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:31:42 -0800
In-Reply-To: <49527B19.3080909@deaddrop.org>
Reply-To: Matthew Black <black@csulb.edu>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:10:33 -0800
Etaoin Shrdlu <shrdlu@deaddrop.org> wrote:
> Matthew Black wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:51:41 -0800
>> "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb@byrneit.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Cox Communications has fully on-shore support. Here in SD they are
>>> actually LOCAL.
>
>> In Verizon land, residential customers do not have
>> CLEC voice or DSL alternatives. We do not have Cox.
>> Our area is served by Charter Communications who has
>> the broadband cable monopoly. Verizon has the fiber
>> monopoly with their FIOS. AT&T fiber is not possible
>> in Verizon land. Nobody competes against Verizon for
>> residential service in Southern California.
>
> Sir, both COVAD and DSLExtreme beg to differ. Seriously. I just checked.
>
> --
> The histories of mankind are histories only of the higher classes.
>
> Thomas Malthus
Going through COVAD's interactive DSL chooser,
there are no options for RESIDENTIAL service.
<http://covad.com/web/index.html>
DSLextreme is charging a higher price than Verizon
and I suspect they are simply reselling Verizon's
DSL rather than connecting my copper to their
network. That's hardly what I consider CLEC service.
I could be wrong and would switch if I could. But I
don't see them offering voice and that's why I conclude
they are reselling Verizon's DSL service.
matthew black
california state university, long beach
