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Re: an over-the-top data center

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Niels Bakker)
Sun Nov 30 22:50:19 2008

Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 04:50:10 +0100
From: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog@bakker.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
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* patrick@ianai.net (Patrick W. Gilmore) [Mon 01 Dec 2008, 02:34 CET]:
> On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Jean-François Mezei wrote:
>> The advantage of this swedish data centre is that even if its location 
>> is well known, it is pretty hard to harm the building. You can't run a 
>> truck full of explosives into it for instance.
>
> Unfortunately, you also cannot run your own fiber there, colo 
> equipment there, visit it for any reason, etc.
>
> I was going to say 'this probably hinders customers adoption at 
> NetNod', but I know for a fact the "probably" is superfluous.

I don't really get your reasoning here, Patrick.  What were you going 
to do?  Put your servers in the same racks as Netnod's switches?  Rate 
their patch fiber management skills?

I can buy the argument that there is one bit of infrastructure (a string 
of dark fiber) more between your router and the IX infrastructure than 
you will get in other locations but in this age of people connecting 
remotely to IXPs all the time this seems pretty minor, especially given 
the box full of advantages it gives the IXP operator regarding facility 
security and having a very clear demarcation point.


	-- Niels.

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